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Post by Steven on Sept 15, 2011 0:05:58 GMT -5
Chris, that's an excellent response to Adam above. I'm 100% behind you.
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Post by linda on Dec 10, 2011 20:51:32 GMT -5
The thing about Costa Rica is that it wasn't something they could fight the Taiwanese mafia had paid off the officials. Shark finning is a BILLION dollar industry that brings in the same amount of money as drug trafficking. So it was pretty much Watson's only choice.
I also was just wondering Chris, is it ok for them to cut up a LIVE shark and then throw it off the boat to die?
I agree Watson is tripping over his lies but he is actually SAVING marine life. What will happen to the oceans ecosystem if sharks die off? The ocean will over populate then what? We have no clue as to what could happen to the ocean.
Now long line fishing, it's bad I mean like really bad. It doesn't only kill sharks it kill turtles and other ENDANGERED animals. Watson might lie but at least he helps to make sure sea life wont die out in one generation.
Last of all, violence has to be used when the fishermen will not listen after given many warnings. Has he ever really killed anyone? It's the other way around, his crew and himself while in Costa Rica where in danger of being killed by the Taiwanese mafia, lets not even talk about when the coast guard was chasing them out, they had guns. Can you really stop a person who's making billions with peace? Maybe, if more people were educated and showed they were against it, but till then violence is justified.
Well that is it, I just want to know who's side your on? Are you for saving poor defenseless animals or letting them being tortured? You don't have to be pro Watson.
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Post by Lotan on Dec 10, 2011 21:15:20 GMT -5
Maybe Pual lies, maybe the Japanese lies too ?
But who cares!!!
It's all come the point if we, the human race, can "take" everything from nature with no responsibility for what we doing .
If the Japanese want whales - They can raise them in Japan water Territory
for scientific "research and food".
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Post by Luke on Jan 2, 2012 12:30:53 GMT -5
man,you're one bitter dude with obsession
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Post by Beefille on Jan 24, 2012 10:17:54 GMT -5
I don't know why you feel the need to demonize the only conservation group that is actually doing something to end the slaughter of marine wildlife and to ensure the survival of our oceans. I can understand not agreeing with this politics or tactics but to put effort and time in discrediting Watson and his efforts just makes you seem like a ignorant homo sapien who supports the brutal raping of our planet's life support system. If we kill our oceans.. we kill ourselves - it is that simple and it is TRUE. Watson doesn't give a whip about you and your pathetic excuse for a website - he cares about the whales, the sharks, the seals, the sea cucumbers, etc. This website is also pointless because Watson showed and admitted to having disdain for truthfulness in his book Earthforce! when he stated the following; "The nature of the mass media today is such that the truth is irrelevant. What is true and what is right to the general public is what is defined as true and right by the mass media." And again when he stated; "If you don't know an answer, a fact, a statistic, then[...] make it up on the spot and deliver the information confidently and without hesitation." The public is being lied to all the time by everyone. If we were to compare just the lies told by the ICR or the Japanese government and those of Watson, it would be clear as day as to which lies are costing us (humans, marine mammals, Earth) most. Wake up and realize YOU'RE part of the problem not the solution and that people who visit this website will leave it knowing you are a sad, pathetic, weak individual.
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Post by just passing by a warzone on Feb 6, 2012 13:15:15 GMT -5
"The one intelligent observation which foreshadowed Paul and his Sea Shepherd Society was his final quote - "the organization becomes more important than the issue.""
You might want to tweak this part a little, it seems you have misinterpreted his sentence.
you have cut "i think that the problem that is happening, and that it deserves criticism, is that the organization becomes more important than the issue" short of it's original phrasing and it has become a whole new controversial quote that was supposed to mean otherwise. That's a bit of cherry-picking committed there. Just saying.
BTW, don't anyone tell me i'm a hypocritical meat-eater, i am merely just pointing something out to help with the site's accuracy.
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Post by Chris on Mar 5, 2012 21:15:24 GMT -5
I don't know why you feel the need to demonize the only conservation group that is actually doing something to end the slaughter of marine wildlife and to ensure the survival of our oceans. I can understand not agreeing with this politics or tactics but to put effort and time in discrediting Watson and his efforts just makes you seem like a ignorant homo sapien who supports the brutal raping of our planet's life support system. If we kill our oceans.. we kill ourselves - it is that simple and it is TRUE. Watson doesn't give a whip about you and your pathetic excuse for a website - he cares about the whales, the sharks, the seals, the sea cucumbers, etc. This website is also pointless because Watson showed and admitted to having disdain for truthfulness in his book Earthforce! when he stated the following; "The nature of the mass media today is such that the truth is irrelevant. What is true and what is right to the general public is what is defined as true and right by the mass media." And again when he stated; "If you don't know an answer, a fact, a statistic, then[...] make it up on the spot and deliver the information confidently and without hesitation." The public is being lied to all the time by everyone. If we were to compare just the lies told by the ICR or the Japanese government and those of Watson, it would be clear as day as to which lies are costing us (humans, marine mammals, Earth) most. Wake up and realize YOU'RE part of the problem not the solution and that people who visit this website will leave it knowing you are a sad, pathetic, weak individual. I don't really even need to respond to this, do I? This is the most ant-Watson comment I've seen from a pro-Watson member. What your position really boils to is "It's okay to lie because everyone is doing it!" Sorry, but most people don't agree with that.
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Post by theherbalgerbil on Mar 8, 2012 8:14:58 GMT -5
I don't know why you feel the need to demonize the only conservation group that is actually doing something to end the slaughter of marine wildlife and to ensure the survival of our oceans. What a load of BS! - Sea Shepherd isn’t the only group doing anything for marine wildlife. There’s the WWF and Greenpeace who are arguably doing much more than Sea Shepherd. They have bigger public awareness campaigns and they petition governments to change and enforce laws. All Sea Shepherd does is release transparent propaganda and engage in petty attacks. That does more for whaling than against it.
- Sea Shepherd is much less of a conservation group than they are an animal rights group. They determine which species to campaign for based much more on pop culture status than conservation status. Don’t you think it’s messed up that a “conservation†group would protect non-endangered dolphins in Japan when species like Hector’s and Maui’s dolphins and the vaquita porpoise will be extinct within the decade if nobody does anything about it?
Only to people who fall for Watson’s BS hook, line and sinker. The man really doesn’t need to be discredited at all. All Chris and co. do is expose his lies for what they are. No need to make anything up when reality speaks for itself. It’s also completely irrelevant. Do you honestly think that what Japan’s doing is “killing the oceans�! Their yearly whaling quotas amount to less than 1% of the population of the species they hunt. That’s not “killing the oceans†by a long shot; it’s hardly even making a dent. Hah, yeah right! And how many of his current followers do you think are actually aware of that ethos? How many do you think know just how far he takes it? Really?! Can you even find me 3 times the ICR has lied about anything? I dare you. Speak for yourself. You’re the one making pathetic excuses for a lack of morals.
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Post by Ilonka on Apr 1, 2012 17:17:01 GMT -5
Even if Paul Watson does tell lies to get what he wants. So many people lie, and most of them do it for their own gain, at least he does it for something he believes in, something that will make the world a better place!
I really wonder why you made this website....but reading it I had the feeling that you were just a sick psychopath. I mean, what kind of person would do something like this. I bet you liked torturing small animals when you were a little boy. You probably still do....
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Post by capt777737 on Apr 27, 2012 23:44:43 GMT -5
You made a big mistake, NEVER ID YOUR REAL IDENTITY, it could make you a target, even for beig killed. SSCS supporter knows I was a target, so was Paul, maybe still is by opponents. We take care of our own. And just to show you that not everyone is too cowardly to speak their piece, my name is Josephine Deym and I live in the greater Chicagoland area. And I absolutely mean what I say about cowards maligning people under the guise of anonymity. Although a clever attempt at misdirection, the fact is that you're not even attempting to refute the copious facts which reveal Paul Watson's true nature. This site isn't about me any more than WikiLeaks is about Julian Assange's sexual activities. If you're really that interested, it would take a minimal amount of effort to find out the company that owns and operates this website and who I am as the owner. And once you've done that, perhaps you can find another reason to avoid facing the reality that Watson is a liar, felon and hypocrite.
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Post by Den on May 10, 2012 7:29:44 GMT -5
Fantastic work mate ... great job exposing these clowns. They are nothing more than glory hunters hoping to grab a bit of fame and a few dollars of the unsuspecting mugs that support them.
All they had to do was shadow the trawlers and film any 'illegal activity' but no .. they can't do that because it is not happening. So they ram and cause collisions for publicity stunts.
These fucking halfwits are preventing people from making an honest living from fishing the seas .. all they are doing is trying to impose their own beliefs and moral righteousness on others by illegal force.
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Post by Den on May 10, 2012 7:30:53 GMT -5
Sorry .. Your site is fantastic .. ignore this deluded sad piece of shit !!
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Post by Den on May 10, 2012 7:43:25 GMT -5
Hello hippies One of the main arguments form the ignorant hippie activist for not killing pilot whales is “They are so intelligent” So by saying this you (activist) at the same time say that it is the IQ of an animal that justifies if it can be killed or not??? Can someone pleas tell me how you define the IQ of a whale compared to a chicken?? And please if possible send me a list whit animals that fall below the IQ limit that makes it ok for us to kill them. Another argument in that the killing of pilot whales “Is so cruel and bloody”. Compared to what??? The killing of the cows, pigs, chicken and other animals most of you (activist) eat is just as bloody as the killing of the pilot whales. The different is that the killing of cows, pigs and chicken happen in buildings where you (activist) can not see all the blood and cruelty. When killing a pilot whale it is a little difficult to prevent the blood from go in to the sea and make it red. Well maybe we can drag the whales up on the beach and in to buildings (and thereby really make them suffer) before killing them so the sea doesn’t become red. The killing of the pilot whale today is so efficient and fast that the whale dies instantly, thus making it no more cruel then the killing of any animal you (activist) eat. Anyone that is not a full-blooded vegetarian and is against killing of all animals on the planet (that is also the burgers you eat in MacDonald’s and Burger King) have no valid argument for why we the people of Faroe Island should not kill pilot whales. Regarding Poul Watson coming to Faroe Island whit Whale wars. We will welcome him whit open arms. This will be excellent free commercial for the Faroese tourist industry. Bad commercial is better then no commercial. I personally will never stop killing pilot whales, having a bunch of MacDonald’s eating hippies on my back thinking they are saving the world only makes my urge to maintain our proud tradition in Faroe Island much stronger. And one last thing hippies, get you f***ing facts straight before you start commenting on things that you have no knowledge about other then all the bullshit and lies that you have heard from Paul Watson and his propaganda ministry, which in fact operates disturbingly similar to the Nazi propaganda ministry in WW2. Almost everything you can read about Faroe Island and the killing of pilot whales in Sea [Shepherds] page is a direct lie. So before you getting all hipp and flippi thinking your trying to save the world, do some god dam research and don't be so f***ing naive. Over and out, I have a few pilot whales to kill, yummi :-) Well said that man; they couldn't spot propaganda if it rammed them in their sides and sank. Paul Watson is a 'chancer and an opportunist' who fleeces the gullible. Nice work .. fancy boat and look at all of his travel destinations ... wow !!!
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Post by Adam on May 19, 2012 21:49:20 GMT -5
I appreciate the irony of this site having a Whale Wars promo at the bottom of the board. You are helping SS while trashing them at the same time. In my estimation, the net outcome of this website will favor SS because the tv show is a powerful propaganda tool for SS, and now (thanks to this site) I know that a new season of Whale Wars starts soon! Nice job!
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Post by tom on Jun 28, 2012 13:58:00 GMT -5
Chris can you answer what many people are asking abd tell us why it is you are targeting sea shepherd instead of many other organisations/businesses that lie for persobal gain? If you ignore this post it will prove that you do not have an answer and are clearly gaining something from this
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