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Post by jamie on May 13, 2011 21:11:21 GMT -5
hello i just watch the show whale wars and while st looking for information on them i came across this site.
i mean no disrespect by saying this but you are a hypocrite. first reason. what are you reason to try and condeem paul watson i understand there is two sides to every storey but u r not involved in anyway with the sea sheperds or the whalers. you have pointed this out before and to people on this website in the forum are saying that the japenese should stand up for themselfs againest sea sheperds more often.
POEPLE ON THE ADY GIL COULD OF DIED AND DONT SAY THEY COULDNT OF THEY COULD. the whalers had sufficant time to manuver away from the ady gil. and not only that the ady gil had right of way they were a Slow moving. Stationary vessel on the starboard side of the whaling vessel which means the whaling ship should of change course and jus incase sum1 brings up the bigger ship has rite of way in this sort of situation it does not.
i also do not blame u for not wanting your phone number handed out however the accused should have the right to face his accuser.
Also i have read somewhere on here that paul watson wants finacial gain tbh unless u actually know hikm personally u can never say what he actually does it for.
and u doint really have any hardcore evidence u have alot of information u have wrote however nothing else. and it has been very hard in the short time i have searched to actually back anything u say in full. cant reli find any hardcore evidence to back you up
to be honest i believe u have more in this then what you say u do.
i jus ask that if u r so quick to have ago at people for being ignorant or un civil when it comes to defending paul watson u should also have ago at people who think it is ok for the whalers to actually try to harm or endanger the lives of the sea sheperds.
one more pointer u got alot of website address'es after the lies. however u have only a couple after the truths why is this.
and before i get started on i dont love paul watson and i dont really love whales i think them being killed is wrong however who am i to judge what certain people have be doin for hundreds of year
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Post by Steven T on May 14, 2011 7:00:00 GMT -5
Paul Watson and The Sea Shepherd Conservation Society are just pathetic. It doesn't matter what they are trying to save, the Planet or the ants, they can't deny the fact that there are about 8 billion people on this planet.
ALL resources will be scarce because the Earth just can't simply produce fast enough for use to consume. So instead of banging your head fighting fishermen trying to make a living, not to mention that we all gotta eat, why don't they get the energy and resources to come up with solutions for population control and ways to produce food more efficiently so we don't have to compete with the wild animals.
These people cry on the camera, but i don't feel sorry for them as they don't feel bad making others cry.
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Post by Steven T on May 14, 2011 7:08:41 GMT -5
It doesn't matter who's at fault in the boat accident. The reality is if Watson wants to play the naughty game at sea, he gets what he deserves. If you corner a dog, at some point it will bite. And don't cry when that happens.
By the way to the owner of this web site: if you are doing this for a good cause, please rid of the commercialized version of the Captcha function. It's annoying.
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Post by Chris on May 15, 2011 23:24:21 GMT -5
Sorry, the Captcha function comes with the bulletin board. I don't know if I'm doing this for a "good cause"...my only motivation is to try to enlighten a handful of very ignorant or naive people who believe every word Watson says because they're too lazy or disinterested in learning the truth.
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Post by anonymos on Jun 13, 2011 11:03:10 GMT -5
jamie u r a dumee and need 2 stop txting so mch or u will 4ever type lke u hve a mental disorder
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Post by Anonymous on Jun 22, 2011 14:51:46 GMT -5
Look, I can't validate any information given on this website, nor can I prove it wrong. However, I can state my opinion. First off, let me just say that I support the Sea Shepherds and their cause. However, I am willing to look at both sides of an issue, and this I did in reading this website. In response to your newest post, "Paul Watson orders sinking of Ady Gil", I say that is merely a misconception of the truth. While the boat was afloat and salvageable, if you watch the television show, Paul Watson states, to the dismay of captain Pete Bethune, that the boat had very little chance of making it to port. Therefore, they cut the rope and leave the boat to sink. If you want to argue with me, by all means go ahead. However, be sure to come to me with facts and statements, rather than a statement such as, "The tv show lied!" or, "Paul Watson is just a !@#&%". If you want to prove this website's validity, then make an argument for it.
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Post by deepc185 on Jul 6, 2011 18:26:30 GMT -5
Let me start this with a preface... I am not an eco-nut nor a tree-hugger. I am not a vegan, or even a vegetarian, and I love to eat meat! Although, I am an animal lover, I also recognize that humans are more important that animals, and sometimes animals must be harmed or killed to promote the welfare of humans. I have never supported Greenpeace or PETA, in fact, I think PETA should stand for People for the Eating of Tasty Animals! I believe that Paul Watson is prone to exaggerations and even some lies in order to promote his cause.
Having said all of that, however, I am a firm believer in what Sea Shepherd stands for and against. I think that whaling and dolphin hunting are cruel and barbaric practices against highly intelligent creatures. I don't believe there is any legitimate scientific reason to kill them, and it is only done to provide a small percentage of the world's population with a source of what amounts to a highly specialized delicacy. I also believe that cruelty towards animals, especially for the sake of cruelty, is inhumane and anyone guilty of it should be harshly punished.
I am in further agreement with Adam's post regarding Paul Watson's comments. It is a matter of PR. Sure, some of it is bullshit, but at least he has a valid reason for his. I wonder what your reasons are? I don't care who you are, where you live, or even where you work, assuming that it isn't for a company with some sort of vested interest in discrediting Sea Shepherd and Paul Watson. What I am interested in knowing is WHY you have chosen to attack this particular organization, which appears to have noble causes and is doing something positive for the world at large. Why not attack PETA, or the NAACP, or Amnesty International, or the ACLU? Hell, for that matter, why not attack the Catholic Church, or any other major religion? All of the above mentioned have used subterfuge and outright lies to promote their own causes and welfare, and to profit financially moreso than Paul Watson and Sea Shepherd have. YOU yourself have twisted the facts on this very website to promote your cause!
My only conclusion to all of this is that you are someone who has personally suffered at the hands of Sea Shepherd and/or Paul Watson, or you work for a company that has a financial stake in all of this. Did your girlfriend or wife run off to join SSCS? Did a whale or other marine mammal cause you grievous harm, so much so that you look forward to the eradication of the entire species? Or is it something much more mundane, like your company takes money from whalers or another fishing industry? Do you yourself work for a PR firm with a client who would benefit if SSCS were dismantled? I just can't imagine that someone with NOTHING at stake in the battle, would go through the trouble you have in setting up an entire website in an attempt to discredit an organization and person you have no personal interactions with, past or present. Maybe I'm wrong. (It has happened before! But please don't tell my wife I admitted it!) Maybe you have dozens or hundreds of websites out there set up with the sole intent of discrediting the lies of major non-profit organizations! If so, I'd love it if you would post the addresses. I'm particularly interested in any proof of conspiracies involving the Catholic Church. I'm a firm believer that the Pope and CC are sitting on some fantastic information that they are afraid of the rest of us finding out about, in fear it will destroy their multi-trillion dollar industry!
Once again, to summarize, I have no connection with SSCS, Paul Watson, or any conservationist group, for that matter. I do occasionally donate money to my local animal shelter and ASPCA, and I am thinking of buying a t-shirt from SSCS, but only because I think the shirts are really cool! I am not an employee of any type of PR firm, legal firm, or any other "firms" for that matter! I am simply a quasi-intelligent, 41 year old, married father of two children, two dogs, and a guinea pig, who would like to see his children grow up in a world better than the one I did. Oh, and although I am admittedly a master bull-shitter, I am also quick to point out other, less articulate bull-shitters. Therefore, kind sir, although you have shovelled quite the pile, I do feel the need to point and shout, "BULLSHITTER!!!"
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Post by seriously on Jul 7, 2011 15:17:08 GMT -5
Dear 5thCount, You are an idiot. Take five minutes of your wasted life and contrast the difference between producing beef and poultry products and taking meat from the wild.
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Post by MrX on Jul 8, 2011 5:28:24 GMT -5
Get a Life Mr Chris.If Paul Watson is Lying To Save The Whales And Other Species So Be it.I Would Even Kill Those People The Same Way They Kill These Innocent Lord Made Creatures.So For You Mr.Chris All I Gotta Say Is That GET A LIFE.
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Post by Chris on Jul 10, 2011 23:46:35 GMT -5
Get a Life Mr Chris.If Paul Watson is Lying To Save The Whales And Other Species So Be it.I Would Even Kill Those People The Same Way They Kill These Innocent Lord Made Creatures.So For You Mr.Chris All I Gotta Say Is That GET A LIFE. Clearly we're on opposite sides here. You think it's okay to lie if you believe in your "cause". What if the next guy has a cause you don't agree with? Is it okay for him to lie? If not, that makes you a hypocrite. If the cause is just, there is no need to lie about it. Think of the great men and woman in history, especially those who fronted great causes. Now, name the ones that were bald-faced liars. Tick. Tock.
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Post by Chris on Jul 10, 2011 23:53:48 GMT -5
My only conclusion to all of this is that you are someone who has personally suffered at the hands of Sea Shepherd and/or Paul Watson, or you work for a company that has a financial stake in all of this. Did your girlfriend or wife run off to join SSCS? Did a whale or other marine mammal cause you grievous harm, so much so that you look forward to the eradication of the entire species? Or is it something much more mundane, like your company takes money from whalers or another fishing industry? Do you yourself work for a PR firm with a client who would benefit if SSCS were dismantled? I just can't imagine that someone with NOTHING at stake in the battle, would go through the trouble you have in setting up an entire website in an attempt to discredit an organization and person you have no personal interactions with, past or present. Maybe I'm wrong. (It has happened before! But please don't tell my wife I admitted it!) Maybe you have dozens or hundreds of websites out there set up with the sole intent of discrediting the lies of major non-profit organizations! If so, I'd love it if you would post the addresses. I'm particularly interested in any proof of conspiracies involving the Catholic Church. I'm a firm believer that the Pope and CC are sitting on some fantastic information that they are afraid of the rest of us finding out about, in fear it will destroy their multi-trillion dollar industry! Once again, to summarize, I have no connection with SSCS, Paul Watson, or any conservationist group, for that matter. I do occasionally donate money to my local animal shelter and ASPCA, and I am thinking of buying a t-shirt from SSCS, but only because I think the shirts are really cool! I am not an employee of any type of PR firm, legal firm, or any other "firms" for that matter! I am simply a quasi-intelligent, 41 year old, married father of two children, two dogs, and a guinea pig, who would like to see his children grow up in a world better than the one I did. Oh, and although I am admittedly a master bull-shitter, I am also quick to point out other, less articulate bull-shitters. Therefore, kind sir, although you have shovelled quite the pile, I do feel the need to point and shout, "BULLSHITTER!!!" Wrong on all counts. I'm an internet entrepreneur and app developer. No ties to whaling or conservation groups in any way, shape or form. Watson is a criminal and liar who extorts money from people (albeit suckers) through misinformation and outright lies. Many of the fools who gives him $20 or $50 have been tricked into doing so. That's wrong by every honest person's definition. I've never given him money or known anyone who has, but wonder what kind of response you'd get if you wrote "Mr. Watson, I donated $100 to your cause because I believe what you said in an interview. Now that I know you were lying, I'd like my money back!" By the way, if you think we need more websites pointing out the evils of the Catholic Church, let me know...I'll look into it. Of course, there are people who justify the Church's murders and molestation as well. Are you a defender of those crimes as well because they're serving a "greater good"?
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Post by deepc185 on Jul 14, 2011 9:53:04 GMT -5
By the way, if you think we need more websites pointing out the evils of the Catholic Church, let me know...I'll look into it. Of course, there are people who justify the Church's murders and molestation as well. Are you a defender of those crimes as well because they're serving a "greater good"? I in no way defend evils done in the name of God or any religion. My point was you seem to be going after a rather small fish in the scheme of things, and one who, in my own humble opinion, is at least doing something positive. As I noted in my initial statement, PETA is far more hypocritical and based on lies than SSCS. The president of PETA at one time was a woman who is diabetic. She released a public statement that animals should never be killed or used in any way by humans for our sole benefit, but either forgot to mention, or was too stupid to know that the insulin she uses on a daily basis is derived from sheep. I guess its ok for her to use animal byproducts because of all the work she's doing to save them! But enough of that, let's get back to the real subject, your hatred of SSCS. Look, I can understand that you might think Paul Watson is a douchebag. As I mentioned, I personally think that he is someone who has learned to manipulate the media to forward his cause. At the end of Season 1 of Whale Wars, he claims to have been shot by someone on one of the Japanese whaling vessels. Anyone with even a moderate understanding of marksmanship has to know what a difficult, if not impossible, shot that would have been. A shooter on one ship rising up and down in high seas, shooting a target that is also rising and falling on another ship, that's a one in a million shot! His second in command during the first two seasons, Peter Brown (I think that was his name), was an even bigger douchebag who had no business being in charge of anything, much less 2nd in command on a ship! Regardless of their shennannigans, the cause is one that I believe is worthwhile. The actions of the SSCS bring worldwide attention to atrocities committed, not only by Japanese whalers, but also shark finners, seal hunters, long liners, and marine poachers. The lies you have accused him of, seem minor in comparison to the lies of billion dollar corporations around the world. Wasn't it Machiavelli who stated "The ends justify the means"? Well, if Watson's "lies" encourage enough people to stand against the barbaric practices people commit against creatures, then I think he is well justified. Really, if you want to take a side in this matter, and point out lies told by one side against the other, why not point out the lies of the IWC? Or if you don't want to take a side, why not at least be objective and point out the lies both sides are telling to promote their causes? Simply put, your argument that you are attacking Paul Watson simply because he is a liar, just doesn't hold water. The world is full of liars who have made more profit off of their victims and for purely personal gain. How about the Bush/Cheney/Haliburton team? How about Bernie Madoff? The banking industry? The NCAA? You can deny it all you want, but I and many others who happen across your site will continue to believe that there is some personal motive involved in this until you prove otherwise. Either that, or you made a bet with someone that you could piss millions of people off by creating an incendiary website, in which case, there is still some personal motive involved.
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Post by Max Nicholson on Jul 16, 2011 8:46:37 GMT -5
Chris, you have no more arguments. You have been owned.
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Post by Chris on Jul 16, 2011 15:01:12 GMT -5
Chris, you have no more arguments. You have been owned. Well, since you put it in big letters, it must be true. Well done.
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Post by Pilot whale eater on Jul 16, 2011 19:24:55 GMT -5
Hello hippies One of the main arguments form the ignorant hippie activist for not killing pilot whales is “They are so intelligent” So by saying this you (activist) at the same time say that it is the IQ of an animal that justifies if it can be killed or not??? Can someone pleas tell me how you define the IQ of a whale compared to a chicken?? And please if possible send me a list whit animals that fall below the IQ limit that makes it ok for us to kill them. Another argument in that the killing of pilot whales “Is so cruel and bloody”. Compared to what??? The killing of the cows, pigs, chicken and other animals most of you (activist) eat is just as bloody as the killing of the pilot whales. The different is that the killing of cows, pigs and chicken happen in buildings where you (activist) can not see all the blood and cruelty. When killing a pilot whale it is a little difficult to prevent the blood from go in to the sea and make it red. Well maybe we can drag the whales up on the beach and in to buildings (and thereby really make them suffer) before killing them so the sea doesn’t become red. The killing of the pilot whale today is so efficient and fast that the whale dies instantly, thus making it no more cruel then the killing of any animal you (activist) eat. Anyone that is not a full-blooded vegetarian and is against killing of all animals on the planet (that is also the burgers you eat in MacDonald’s and Burger King) have no valid argument for why we the people of Faroe Island should not kill pilot whales. Regarding Poul Watson coming to Faroe Island whit Whale wars. We will welcome him whit open arms. This will be excellent free commercial for the Faroese tourist industry. Bad commercial is better then no commercial. I personally will never stop killing pilot whales, having a bunch of MacDonald’s eating hippies on my back thinking they are saving the world only makes my urge to maintain our proud tradition in Faroe Island much stronger. And one last thing hippies, get you f***ing facts straight before you start commenting on things that you have no knowledge about other then all the bullshit and lies that you have heard from Paul Watson and his propaganda ministry, which in fact operates disturbingly similar to the Nazi propaganda ministry in WW2. Almost everything you can read about Faroe Island and the killing of pilot whales in Sea [Shepherds] page is a direct lie. So before you getting all hipp and flippi thinking your trying to save the world, do some god dam research and don't be so f***ing naive. Over and out, I have a few pilot whales to kill, yummi :-)
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