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Post by Kevin on Feb 1, 2014 14:22:57 GMT -5
To the few people who actually visit this site I would say look at the international press releases, blogs from real scientists, and independent news sources. Read what the unbiased world is saying about Sea Shepherd and it's mission. Don't let a group of people who obviously have an axe to grind sway your opinion, just look up the facts. Number one you will see that people here, especially SHONAN 2, nice name by the way wonder where his/her backing comes from, are basically full of it. Please check it out. Granted SSCS is nt perfect and it's been a steep learning curve but the organization has never been stronger or more professional. Think about this three boats with a handful of souls are battling the whaling fleet with the complete backing of the govt. of Japan including 30 mil. In tsunami relief funds to fund the fleet. Anyway don't listing to me just search your browser for news even some Japanese publications. Check it out and judge for yourself. Watch programs like the Cove and Blackfishand A Fall From freedom.
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Post by shonan2 on Feb 3, 2014 7:09:08 GMT -5
Paranoid much? Just because i use the name of a japanese boat on here doesn't mean im paid by the japanese, wish i was.
The fact you list groups like SS, and propaganda films like the cove and blackfish as peoples sources as the truth just shows how mental you truely are.
I've backed up everything i've said on here with links and facts, you have done neither, probaly why you constantly ignore the points i actually make and just post drivel like your above post
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Post by Jules on Feb 3, 2014 11:26:59 GMT -5
To the few people who actually visit this site I would say look at the international press releases, blogs from real scientists, and independent news sources. Read what the unbiased world is saying about Sea Shepherd and it's mission. Don't let a group of people who obviously have an axe to grind sway your opinion, just look up the facts. Number one you will see that people here, especially SHONAN 2, nice name by the way wonder where his/her backing comes from, are basically full of it. Please check it out. Granted SSCS is nt perfect and it's been a steep learning curve but the organization has never been stronger or more professional. Think about this three boats with a handful of souls are battling the whaling fleet with the complete backing of the govt. of Japan including 30 mil. In tsunami relief funds to fund the fleet. Anyway don't listing to me just search your browser for news even some Japanese publications. Check it out and judge for yourself. Watch programs like the Cove and Blackfishand A Fall From freedom. |
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Post by Jules on Feb 3, 2014 11:33:23 GMT -5
I agree Kevin Sea Shepherd has one purpose and that is to protect the wildlife of our oceans from over exploitation and poaching. The Japanese disregard the international community and kill whales for meat not for research. People like Shonan 2 are peddling the lies of the whalers and the Japanese Government in a desperate attempt to discredit a wonderful organisation with millions of supporters worldwide. They are not funded by big business of governments which is why they are independent and free to act to do the right thing. Without people like Sea Shepherd our oceans will be fished out and killed off and for what - for the short term profit of a small number of people. More power to you Sea Shepherd i am going to make another donation. Just think how much it costs to run a fleet of 4 ships and it all comes form people like me a few dollars at a time.
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Post by shonan2 on Feb 3, 2014 14:30:53 GMT -5
The IWC, the international whaling commission, made up of 88 countries, the majority of which are anti whaling countries agree that Japan is conducting scientific research whaling in full concordence with the rules laid out by the IWC. the fact you can't grasp this very simple fact and keep saying the japanese aren't doing any research just highlights how ignorant of the true facts SS supporters really are.
The japanese are neither over exploiting or poaching whales in the Southern Ocean. There are plenty of ocean creatures that are being exploited around the world that risk dying out, and yet the SS group NEVER does anything about those species, because it would look bad when they failed, hence why they stick to attacking legal hunts that don't threaten the survival of the target species, Japanese whaling, canadian sealing and Faroese pilot whale hunts all fall into this group
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Post by jules on Feb 4, 2014 7:28:56 GMT -5
Shonan2 you are wrong again. You only have to look at the Sea Shepherd web site to see what other campaigns they run. They are trying to protect the oceans from over exploitation that includes campaigns over Blue Fin Tuna, Sharks and a shark finning, protection of coral reefs, over fishing and illegal fishing around the world in particular off africa where they just started a new campaign.Sp you can slag them off all you like you are wrong.
You cannot deny that Whales have been over exploited. Many species are at critically low levels. The way they are killed is barbaric that is also a simple fact.
Who pays you to support these murderers?
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Post by shonan2 on Feb 4, 2014 8:57:32 GMT -5
you only have to look at the SS website to see them taking credit for other peoples campaigns and again most of what they do is against legal fishing operations. The Med tuna campaign they ran a couple of years ago landed them in court for damaging property.
Yes they have just started a new campaign, in a plastic pleasure cruiser, would love to see them try and ram anything in that.
Yes whales have been over exploited in the past, mostly by western nations like America and Australia for oil. The main species of whale that japan hunts is not and never has been over exploited and can easily maintain a regulated hunt.
Its funny how SS only attack Japan for hunting whales and ignore all the other countries that hunt whales. why is that?
Iceland and Norway both hunt whales commercially, infact they hunt endanagered whales commercially and yet SS has ignored this issue for a great many years now. why is that? Is it because Norway kicked your arse last time?
Why would anyone have to pay me to support the truth rather than supporting the bigoted bullshit that SS spouts day in day out?
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Post by Kevin on Feb 4, 2014 12:00:16 GMT -5
Shonan the only facts you spew out of your ignorant mouth are from Japanese research. Why is it EVERY real scientist in the world not interested in making the return to commercial whaling, say that these animals do not need to die to conduct the research. Why if your conducting RESEARCH you take a factory processing ship? SSCS has never opposed Iceland? I seem to remember seeing the entire Icelandic whaling fleet under water some years ago. SSCS is not anti Japanese just anti whaling. And as far as the truth, just look at the amount of people here as opposed to those who support SSCS. but then again I guess that many people around the world are as brainwashed as me. Were all laughing at your feeble attempts to discredit a great organization and an even greater man.
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Post by shonan2 on Feb 4, 2014 13:46:12 GMT -5
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Post by Kevin on Feb 4, 2014 18:28:11 GMT -5
Wow whatever site that was try getting peer reviewed papers to back you up, and not sponsored by the Institute For Cetacean slaughter. You call me dense? I guess your calling most of the civilized world dense, you sir are a joke. The only thing that matters is that they're killing whales for commercial reasons. This is a commercial operation plain and simple.And you call me dense, at least I don't have my head shoved up Japans ass
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Post by Kevin on Feb 4, 2014 21:13:19 GMT -5
One last thing since you want to talk facts. I've been to the southern ocean. I've seen from a helicopter above the deck of your Nisshin Maru the butchers do their work. From the time they chased it down, fired a harpoon loaded cannon, transferred the whale after 40 minutes of the animal thrashing about dying, pulled it up on to the flensing deck, cut it up and sent it below for processing, not one single piece of research was done. There are no scientists aboard, this is a commercial operation. I've been there what about you? Do you speak from experience or just spew out whatever bullshit they tell you.
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Post by Jules on Feb 5, 2014 7:42:19 GMT -5
Well Said Kevin. Im with you. I'm with Sea Shepherd and I'm with the Whales, Dolphins, Tuna, Coral reefs, sharks and all the other life they are trying to protect. Japans slaughter in the Southern Oceans is only a commercial hunt. The research is non existent it just happens to be a loophole they exploit. The world knows otherwise and through the donations of individuals to SS we fight against the odds for one purpose and that is to protect our beautiful oceans. Ultimately Japanese whaling will run out of support because we will not stop until they stop the killing. The catch is getting smaller and smaller and it is not commercially sustainable. that is what will stop it and there is nothing you can do Shonan2 you are a loser
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Post by Dave on Feb 5, 2014 9:27:57 GMT -5
What is this site if it isn't simply the voice of the Japanese Whaling industry. You must think people are stupid but most of us are not. Spout your lies and spew out your nonsense all you like we are SS are not giving in to you. I'm with Jules you can't win
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Post by frangelle on Jun 24, 2015 12:49:12 GMT -5
Just to be clear, shonan2 - I don't think you're a loser. I just think you suffer from tunnel vision and the fact that I already know that's exactly what you think about me proves that I don't. You're constantly referencing stuff from the ICW with the exception of the majority votes made year after year since the 1990's that expressly indicate ICW disapproval for Japan's "research." Stop calling it research. Call it what it is: whaling. The truth shall set you free.
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